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Carvana Says AI Agents Are a Tailwind, Sees 'Extremely Clear' Path to 13.5% EBITDA Margin
Executives said fuel and interest-rate moves cost about $200 per unit in the third quarter, and that Carvana will shift to GAAP operating income and net income reporting in 2027.
Carvana executives said on the company's third-quarter earnings call that rising gas prices and interest rates cost the used-car seller about $200 per unit this quarter, but that the route to a 13.5% adjusted EBITDA margin remains "extremely clear." CEO Ernie Garcia also argued that consumer AI agents should benefit Carvana by reducing digital friction while exposing the physical friction of buying from traditional dealers.
Margin path and 2027 reporting change
Garcia said the 13.5% EBITDA margin target maps to a 12.5% operating income margin, and that the SG&A leverage areas CFO Mark Jenkins described are enough to reach that level. That leaves revenue and variable-cost gains, many of which AI tools could speed up, as additional upside, Garcia said. "We can see our way very clearly to 13.5% and we plan to get there slowly but surely continually over time," he said.
Jenkins said Carvana will change its reporting in 2027 to focus on GAAP operating income and net income rather than adjusted EBITDA. He called it "a natural step in our evolution as a company," saying the value of adjusted EBITDA declines as the company becomes more profitable on a GAAP basis.
Jenkins identified leverage opportunities in overhead, advertising and operations expense. He said advertising leverage is more likely over the longer term than the near term, and that operations expense rose in the third quarter largely because of fuel and logistics costs.
Agentic AI
Garcia said consumer AI agents push people toward digital transactions and can "effectively reduce digital friction to zero while leaving physical friction largely unchanged." He said an agent shopping at a traditional dealer would surface dock fees, add-ons and uncertainty over financing, while Carvana could present a car, trade-in value and payment terms at once.
Asked by an analyst why Carvana does not always show up when he queries chatbots for used cars, Garcia said the company must push its data out so bots can see it, and that it will appear more often as it grows. He said little in the underlying business needs to change because Carvana's consumer-facing system is deterministic and can expose each part of a transaction through an API.
Asked whether agents could intensify competition on auto loan rates, Garcia called the concern reasonable in isolation but said market adjustments, such as prepayment or upfront fees, would likely temper the effect. He said Carvana's vertically integrated model has advantages over two horizontally stacked businesses.
Production, gross profit and growth
Jenkins said Carvana produced more than 200,000 units in a single quarter for the first time and slightly out-produced retail units sold. He said the number of cars immediately available on the website is growing much more slowly than sales, which the company wants to change.
Retail gross profit per unit was strong, Jenkins said, with higher retail-to-wholesale spreads offset partly by higher non-vehicle costs tied to inbound fuel prices. On financing, he said Carvana has passed some benchmark rate increases through to customers, with lags, and that the company earlier passed back efficiency gains in the form of lower customer rates.
Garcia said supply-chain scaling is the biggest constraint on growth. Asked about a larger competitor showing better growth, he said Carvana is roughly a 2% market shareholder, and that it has not seen any competitor have a notable effect on its results.
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CARVANA CEO: Q3 RETAIL SALES TOP 200,000 FOR FIRST TIME, RUN RATE NOW 870,000 UNITS
CARVANA CEO: Q3 ADJUSTED EBITDA $800 MILLION, NET INCOME $480 MILLION, REVENUE OVER $8 BILLION
CARVANA CEO: Q3 NPS UP 9 POINTS IN 2 YEARS, CUSTOMER FINANCING RATE CUT BY OVER 100 BPS
CARVANA CEO: Q3 REVENUE RUN RATE NOW $32 BILLION; HAS JUST OVER 2% OF USED MARKET SHARE
CARVANA CFO: Q3 RETAIL UNITS SOLD 217,385, UP 39%; REVENUE $8.04 BILLION, UP 42%
CARVANA CFO: Q3 NON-GAAP RETAIL GPU UP $85, WHOLESALE GPU DOWN $196, OTHER GPU DOWN $299
CARVANA CFO: Q3 NON-GAAP SG&A PER RETAIL UNIT FLAT; OPS EXPENSE UP $109, OVERHEAD DOWN $159
CARVANA CFO: Q3 NET INCOME $83 MILLION; ADJ EBITDA MARGIN 10%, DOWN FROM 11.3%
CARVANA CFO: FY2026 ADJUSTED EBITDA OUTLOOK $2.7 BILLION TO $3.0 BILLION
CARVANA CFO: Q3 RECORD RECONDITIONING OUTPUT, FIRST QUARTER OVER 200,000 UNITS PRODUCED
CARVANA EXEC: WOULD PREFER FTC PRICE-DISCLOSURE BENEFIT SHOW UP IN UNIT GROWTH, NOT MARGIN
CARVANA EXEC: NEW FACILITIES TEND TO HAVE HIGHER COSTS THAN MATURE ONES AS PRODUCTION RAMPS
CARVANA EXEC: GOAL OF 13.5% EBITDA MARGIN MAPS TO 12.5% OPERATING INCOME MARGIN
CARVANA EXEC: GAS PRICE AND INTEREST RATE MOVES IMPACTED Q3 BY ABOUT $200 PER UNIT
CARVANA EXEC: STILL AT ABOUT 2% MARKET SHARE; SPENDING MORE ON ADVERTISING TO KEEP PRESSURE UP
CARVANA EXEC: Q3 UNITS UP 39.4%; SUPPLY CHAIN SCALING SEEN AS BIGGEST GROWTH DRIVER
CARVANA EXEC: PRIME MIX SHIFTING UP AS PRODUCTION FOCUSES ON PRICIER LATER-MODEL CARS
CARVANA EXEC: 2027 REPORTING TO FOCUS ON GAAP OPERATING INCOME, NET INCOME OVER ADJUSTED EBITDA
CARVANA EXEC: SAYS NOT SEEN ANY COMPETITOR ACTION THAT HAD NOTABLE IMPACT ON RESULTS
CARVANA EXEC: SAYS HAS NO DOCK FEES; SAID 'FUNDAMENTAL GAINS' 350 TIMES IN RECENT YEARS
CARVANA EXEC: Q3 PRODUCTION OUTPACED SALES 'BY A LITTLE BIT'; WANTS FASTER INVENTORY PROGRESS
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contrary
to
I'm sorry.
commentary today also will include non gaap financial metrics
I can kind of get a little bit of a title.
gaap reconciliations can be found in the shareholder letter posted on our ir site
you're gonna hire.
highly outside.
With
that, it looks like it's a little
we
with that i'd like to turn the time turn the call over to ernie garcia
to.
ernie
Way all
in Bay
it over
for doing the
Cole.
all through
shout out
to
Meg, who's
the
Home with
thanks austin and thanks everyone for joining the call also shout out
to meg who's at home with her second and should be on a walk but is almost certainly listening to this call so
meg go for a walk it's nice out we got this
Maybe overlock. It's nice that we
the third quarter was another exciting quarter for carvana
Another exciting word for carbon, we were made on building machine to
for you, half
our focus remains on building the machine to deliver three million units per year and thirteen point
that.
of the
you've got all
and it feels
drum beat of
her
five percent adjusted ebitda margin and the steady drumbeat of results heading in that
However,
of both the teams at the
Coca
and
the
achievability
of
those
is evidence of both the team's execution and the achievability of those goals
goals. I mean,
immediately burst
publicly
the
at progress we
are
we're
were in.
making.
first let's look at the progress we are making scaling the machine
scaling the
machine
are first
quarter
with
over
thousand
say,
fail.
this is our first quarter with over two hundred thousand sales
out.
and double
what it
was
just
two years
our run rate is now eight hundred and seventy thousand double what it was just two years ago
ago.
This was
all sort
a
first
quarter
with
eight
million
dollars
of
this was also our first quarter with eight billion dollars of revenue
revenue.
Our run
rate
is
now
$32
billion
More
than
double
what it
was
two years
our run rate is now thirty two billion dollars more than double what it was two years ago
ago. Next, let's look at the financial results. Our machine.
continues to be the
despite
the
that
next let's look at the financial results our machine continues to post despite the pressures
past.
by.
was
of growth, and
an
imperfect
backdrop
of
a
increasing
interest
raising
gas
of growth and an imperfect backdrop of increasing interest rates and gas prices
game.
or adjusted
even
down in
the
third
quarter,
was
800
million or run right
over
$3
our adjusted ebitda in the third quarter was eight hundred million
billion
almost
double it
was two years
a run rate over three billion dollars almost double what it was two years ago
How many malls? I run a rate of almost two billion
and our net income was four eighty million dollars a run rate of almost two billion dollars
more than that.
whatever
two years
more than double what it was two years ago
8 second hour
we are the fastest growing automotive retailer with eight consecutive quarters of
approximately 40%
grove, and
an
in this area
that's
did
forty percent growth in an industry that's flat
Margin that
the
twice
way
industry
reverse
and we are the most profitable automotive retailer with margins that are approximately twice the industry average
from a 10th
for the tenth quarter in a row
Expansion
for the success, and the
the experience we deliver our customers has always been the foundation for the success
change of
our work is
as well as
the
powers of
feedback in the
model,
continues to be a good
say
separate
us
and the team's hard work as well as the positive feedback in the model continues to separate us
further from the pack here as well
from the back
here.
as well.
Last two
years
are
in
is
improved
by
nine
points as
we are
were delivering
cars to
our
over the last two years our nps has improved by nine points as we are delivering cars
customers,
Chee-Diggs,
Chew
to
days
fast for
We lowered
the
interest
interesting to our
customers
pay
by
over
to our customers two days faster we've lowered the interest rate our
100
basis
point, and we made
the
entire
herb on
experience
customers pay by over one hundred basis points and we've made the entire carvana experience
simpler and more intuitive the machine is getting better
His
She gave him
the Mork Ture gains
from
despite the market share gains from doubling in two years in a flat industry
You
are any battle and you
Run
We still have just
and despite our scale of eight hundred and seventy thousand unit run rate
we still have just over two percent of used market share and one point five percent
Set
still extremely
lowly in
the
share overall we are still extremely early in the game
game.
we
briefly touch
on
another
benefit of
our
vertical
rate it
model.
Building it to
in the letter we briefly touched on another benefit of our vertically integrated model
sort of our
Well, this
we've
created
a
very
capable,
in building it to serve our core business we have created a very capable scaled platform
scaled
clap
Our
at
fixed after
was
to
the
Lantis new
cars
is
a
clear
demonstration of
the
platform
our early success with stellantis new cars is a clear demonstration of the platform value
value of
Carmel's
operations
but
not
and
in
irrestructure.
in a
of carvana's operations technology brand and infrastructure
day, then
I don't
motto it rapturely,
different in a
way
that
did it not
only is the
in addition our model is structurally different in a way that not
that, moment of the last 14 years, but also meets the moment of
only met the moment of the last fourteen years but also meets the moment of today
that we
constantly
I
have
so, in
every part
of the
business is
this, if
a question that we constantly ask ourselves in every part of the business is this
was today from
if we were building this today from scratch what would we build
What a rabbit, what a
first
early
water of the
with a rapid increase in the capabilities of ai
for
other
I get the car
wife, the
them, quite a
with an
and with the first early looks at the opportunities agentic commerce will provide
the
fine
going to
it's a relevant question with an exciting answer
answer from
scratch
if we were starting from scratch today we would build carvana
today, we would build
Carmel.
Mill.
most
powerful in
to see
I made it indeterminate,
when
with
technology
is
ai is most powerful when decisions are automated and deterministic
the
architected to wrap the technology, and the
surface
so
that's what I
where there's
a steady stream
when technology is architected to rapidly surface those answers
a feet
And in
the presence of
what we're
when there's a steady stream of differentiated data to feed it
where
experiences
get
simpler
and
fish,
between
ways
and in the presence of vertical integration where experiences get simpler
theirs
and frictions between layers disappear
carvana has all of this
Here.
Harmony.
harmony is much earlier in its
it's an
agent commerce is much earlier in its maturity but it seems likely to accelerate digital
Her
But I
Die, I think, to reward companies who have put their effort in the building fundamentally
better
solutions.
adoption to reward companies who have put their effort into building fundamentally better solutions
and to
put
pressure on
supply,
to
chains do
be the
a
low
cost
and
fast
as
possible.
and to put pressure on supply chains to be as low cost and fast as possible
Corona
Also, had
have all of
carvana also has all of this
exciting
time.
If we keep
building the
machine,
good
things
are
going
gonna keep
to
happening. The musk
it's an exciting time if we keep building the machine good things are going to keep happening
continued,
the march continues mark
Markerning,
and thank
you
all
for
joining
us for
the people of the
unless
otherwise
thank you ernie and thank you all for joining us today
No
all comparisons will
be on
a
unless otherwise noted all comparisons will be on a year over year basis
year-over-year basis.
Another strong quarter for Carmina.
We said
new
q3 was another strong quarter for carvana we set new company records
company records for retailing and
that
for retail units sold revenue gross profit
gaap operating income and adjusted ebitda
These were
Riven
these results were driven by our company wide focus on driving profitable growth
and efficient operational execution
Two seventeen
retail units sold totaled two hundred and seventeen thousand
in
Q
I am
Infrastructure in a new
three hundred and eighty five in q3 an increase of thirty nine percent and a new company record
company
revenue was eight point zero four billion
Why are four bills?
For the two
an increase of forty two percent and a new company record
House quarter! Our third
consistent with past quarters our
growth in the third quarter was driven by our three long term drivers of growth
She
Long-term drivers of Groudon
A continuously improving customer
a continuously improving customer offering
offered.
of them and it's
increasing awareness understanding and trust
understanding, and trust.
and
increasing and
inventory
selection and other
and increasing inventory selection and other benefits of scale
Marker, 11th consecutive
the third quarter marked our eleventh consecutive quarter of
of industry leading
retail
tell you to
a
grow,
and industry
industry leading retail unit growth and industry
adjusted ebitda margin
Just the bummer.
Got retail GPU increased by $85.
Primarily
non gaap retail gpu increased by eighty five dollars
driven
by
wider spread between retail and
wholesale
primarily driven by wider spread between retail and wholesale market prices
partially offset by higher non vehicle costs
How sat by how
non vehicle.
One
hundred at his
non gaap wholesale gpu decreased by one hundred and ninety six dollars
dollars
by
39% growth, outpace in our
primarily driven by our thirty nine percent retail unit sold growth
wholesale
breath
birth
profit
outpacing our wholesale gross profit growth
Other GPU
decreased
by
two or
and ninety-nine
non gaap other gpu decreased by two ninety nine dollars
dollars. I merely
brother.
by our decision to give back to customers in the form of lower interest
primarily driven by our decision to give back to customers in the form of lower interest rates
rates, relative to
the benchmark,
rate
as
Rising
benchmark
relative to benchmark rates as well as by rising benchmark rates
A heading
in the third quarter partially offset by higher average amount financed and hedging gains
As you know, it's for
retail, you
of the
sold
with
a
non gaap sg and a expense per retail units sold was
approximately
it's a very long
approximately flat
flat.
Great, one hundred
for retail that's
soul, all
operations expense increased one hundred and nine dollars per retail units sold
Primarily due to
higher fuel and
logistics
go
primarily due to higher fuel and logistics costs
Oh, this
increase
more
than I was
set
that, by a little
100
to make our
propagated
this increase was more than offset by a one hundred and fifty nine
and told,
production,
and
overpaddled
it's
expands,
driven
by a
per retail unit sold reduction in overhead expense driven by our thirty nine percent
39% growth
growth rate
rate.
advertising
expense
Increase
I
I'm not really.
advertising expense increased by
retailers old, as we can
tell you to
forty five dollars per retail unit sold as we continue to invest in
bit of a
building awareness understanding and trust in our customer offering
Notice
to see opportunities for significant SJA levers.
all that
we continue to see opportunities for significant sg and a leverage over time
as we scale, driven
going to be able to
both
continued
and
proven, the profit was, the
and
operational
expenses,
as well
as we scale driven by both continued improvements in operational expenses
whatever
you
in the
fixed
as well as leverage in the fixed components of our cost structure
component is over.
of our cost structure.
net income was
Four hundred eighty three
million, an increase
of two
hundred twenty
I think it's a very good
eighty three million dollars an increase of two twenty million dollars
come
was
motion of the
by
one
net income was negatively impacted by a onetime
time
$53
million
pre-tax
expense
related to the
much
early New
of
senior
fifty three million dollars pretax expense related to the early redemption of
secured
senior secured notes
notes.
income
Come
margin was
net income margin was six percent
6%.
and
increased from the 19th
an increase from four point seven percent
4.7.
Adjusted
Even though the
a
record 800
hundred
million, an
and I
adjusted ebitda was a record eight hundred million dollars
How is the three
an increase of one hundred and sixty three million
I just to deep but down the margin was 10%. It decreased from
adjusted ebitda margin was ten percent
eleven
point three
Some of
primarily driven
I
a decrease from eleven point three percent primarily driven by selling a mix of higher priced
by selling in there
the game back
that
customers in
and
other
vehicles and giving back customers in other gpu
GB
Mm-hmm.
I operating income with seven hundred fourteen million
or eighty
gaap operating income was seven fourteen million
nine
or eighty nine percent of adjusted ebitda
of Justice Ebiddy. And Anquate of
I want her to check you too,
million and a new company
an increase of one hundred and sixty two million dollars and a new company record
The ball
One wander when the moment
It's unreal, these
before turning to the balance sheet i want to spend a moment on what sits underneath these results
we're
building to
deliver
on a
the machine we are building to deliver on our long term goals
The veil of our vision, building the machine is
a
continuous
with the scale of our ambition building the machine is a continuous exercise
was
exercise
and our
Execution is
the
pace,
and our execution is the pacesetter for our growth
Has three components.
that machine has three components selection
speed and
speed and experience each of these maps
To one or more major operational
to one or more major operational groups
bruce. Our inspection and
reconditioning
centres drive
election.
our
our inspection and reconditioning centers drive selection
mean that
was not
our logistics and delivery network drives speed
plus our customer
care
centers
drive customer
care
and these plus our customer care centers drive customer experience
experience.
The work is the
carried out by our
people.
That is including
technicians
and
within those groups the work is carried out by our people
cosmetic
including technicians and cosmetic associates
associates.
and vehicle
transporters,
lifestyle
delivery, and
customer
care
vehicle transporters last mile delivery and customer care advocates and many more
Hire train these
as we grow at thirty nine percent our ability
I have
them better tools and
prophecy.
to hire and train these teams and to give them better tools and processes directly determines how we scale
Directly
determined how
we
scale actively working on each
of these
areas and
we are
encouraged by
the
progress we're
we are actively working on each of these areas and we are encouraged by the progress we are making
making, that's
to the
balance
sheet, we
Into Drive
toward
turning to the balance sheet we
continue to drive toward investment grade quality credit ratios
Gray quality, credit radio.
In the third quarter,
We further
All about
early in the third quarter we further strengthened our
balance sheet by refinancing the remaining one point seven billion dollars of senior secured notes
One point
million of Senior Secured Notes, Do
twenty thirty.
with the seer secured,
term
Lone
due two thousand and thirty with a senior secured term loan b
Resulting in a
approximately
45
million of
annual and
interest
expense
resulting in approximately forty five million dollars of annual interest expense savings
along with
the
this transaction along with the successful execution of our operational
success.
Operational
twelve
upon adjustment,
ebitar
plan in q3 resulted in a net debt to trailing twelve month
ratio of
the zero
adjusted ebitda ratio of 0.8x
Interest
was expensive, which
of six
point
and a trailing twelve month adjusted ebitda to interest expense ratio of 6.9x
Both
new company,
rack.
and
placing
and
our
I
farm gets
financial
both new company records and again placing us
position
our strongest financial position ever
our results through q3 position us well for a strong finish
Wow for a strong finish
20.
and
Looking
to twenty twenty six looking forward we
forward. Borrowing as long as the environment
remains
expect the following as long as the environment remains stable
there.
stable. A
squential increase in
the
retail
units
hold,
just in
E, but
die,
in
the
a sequential increase in retail units sold
my
a higher
of our
lady,
and in the
and adjusted ebitda in the higher end of our previously communicated range
range for the full
year
twenty
of two point seven billion to three point zero billion dollars for the full year twenty twenty six
child.
In
closing,
we
we're
are
excited by
what our team
kind of
accomplished and
in closing we are excited by what our team accomplished in q3
How
were main focused on executing at a high level, however, profitable
we remain focused on executing at a high level delivering profitable growth
GROUSE.
Or gold
becoming the
largest the most
and making consistent progress toward our goals of becoming the largest and most profitable auto retailer
for a
retailer.
And by
it
will now take
and buying and selling millions of cars thanks for your attention we'll now take questions
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I think
taking my questions and uh congratulations on
great thanks for taking my questions and congratulations
managing all
this
on managing all this growth
I question other mirrors a lot
of
a question on other gpu and the interest rate environment a lot of
to
uh conversations
among
investors heading
into
conversations among investors heading into this just
this.
a little bit of a
how are you managing that kind of
you know
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Oh.
The
hundred
into the fourth quarter are you continue to talk about the one hundred basis
points
though
points of
Yeah, improvement to consumers. Are
improvement to consumers are you
The
passing along the full increase in the benchmarks
or how should we kind of think about how you're approaching that
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sure yeah i could take that one so
Her
That question in
a couple
i think i would break that question into a
of different contexts the
one
a
ideas.
of
know, giving
back the
a couple of different concepts the one is the idea of
and
giving back to customers and there i think
an important moment was in late twenty twenty
Moment was
late,
twenty
five.
My
the fun of my game that
five we elected to pass
we had driven in
and other
Over the persing
some of the fundamental gains that we had driven in other gpu over the preceding time periods
time periods
to
customers in
the
form
of
to customers in the form of lower customer interest rates relative to benchmark rates
That component of the
question,
and so that's a
and a place where you know we've long talked about hey as we
drive
of the question and a place where we've long
fundamental
talked about hey as we drive fundamental gains over time we'd love to
home, you know what we're trying to
where I
some
of
those
fundamental
gains that
cost
a
to
improve
our
customer
offering, increase our
pass back some of those fundamental gains to customers to improve our
competitive
range.
and continued
customer offering increase our competitive differentiation and continue to just
to
just you
know,
Build the best offering for customers as we
strive
toward
are
build the best offering for customers as we
strive toward our long term goals so that's this idea of passing back
a warmth, this idea.
Two customers in
the
form of more
interest
rates.
Now, the second
part of
gains to customers in the form of lower interest rates
your great
question of
relates
but
the
now the second part of your question relates to
English
a great
environment,
matched up.
the interest rate environment over the last couple of quarters and
of quarters and, you know, it has
been
now
over the last couple of
it has been now over the last couple of quarters really actually this full year
All
rising
rate in
environment, and so when we're arising great
a rising rate environment and so when we're in a rising rate environment
Invariable speaking, our minds that is
to pass
has
generally speaking mindset is to pass back
back.
Pascan, you know,
movements
and
a rising
grade
great
environment. That
you know pass gain you know movements
means,
increase
the benchmark rate to
the
customers.
in the rising rate environment that means increases
No,
you
in the benchmark rate to customers now we won't always do that in
won't always do that in fall necessarily and
there
you can
full necessarily and there can often be delays or lag times between
often be delays or.
lagtes between when Benjamin
raids
rise and
hash
when benchmark rates rise and when we pass back gains to customers but
back games to customers, but as we've
seen
these,
you know,
rising
rates in
the
past
couple of
quarters,
we
have
been
passing
as we've seen these rising rates in the past couple of quarters we have been passing back
back.
some
of
those
benchmark
great,
moves to
customers, and I
some of those benchmark rate moves to customers and i think
think
you know,
we
that
was
definitely the
in the
second
quarter of the
We saw
that
in
our
other
GPU
we that was definitely delayed in the second quarter we saw that in our other gpu results
results. Thank
and cute
great
race continued to rise,
are
in q3 benchmark rates continue to rise meaningfully
Or
See a
meaningful
change in
other
others you
be
over the course of the quarter but we didn't see a meaningful change
of course, of
her park
part
because.
Has there a start of the
in other gpu quarter over quarter in part because we had sort of started the motion
motion on passing some of those
on passing some of those benchmark rates through so
that's
benchmark rates through that that's a you
know,
pretty
full
um, just
description.
you know, I think of those two
things
pretty fulsome description of the dynamics i think of those two things
separately. One
is you know sort of a strategic pass
of
fundamental
separately one is what was sort of the strategic pass back of fundamental gains
last year and then how are we responding to these
recent rate moves
And then
how we were responding to the
reason remote.
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Fall up by
made retail
that was great thanks mark a follow-up if i may just on retail gpu
Yeah, pretty flat quarter of a quarter that was actually
very
be
pretty flat quarter over quarter that actually very good performance
good on the
other
public.
than
how
relative to some of the other publics you're still talking
Hum, in a fifth of merge, sort of the
fourth quarter last
about some inefficiencies in the business schedule the ones that emerged sort of
the fourth quarter of last year where are we in catching up to that
and just kind of comment in general how you kind of feel about retail gpu
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sure yeah no so i think
I think it is a
strong order for the
retail
as you
be
I
think if
we
look on
at
your
it was strong quarter for retail gpu
you're
i think if we look on a year over year basis i think we
Break it down as you
know, we
he
retell the
whole
health,
bread.
you
know, up here
break it down as we see retail to wholesale
you
of the
partially
spreads up year over year partially offset by
affected
someone's
those higher and
non-vehicle
of
higher non vehicle costs some of those higher non vehicle costs
was the
So,
yeah, that
was the
a
place
where I
were driven by inbound fuel costs so that was a place where rising fuel
Impact of the business and the
quarter, um
prices impacted the business in the quarter but overall i think we're
Hope
the games.
we're really
this
pleased with certainly the gains that we've made in
efficiency
sense.
reconditioning efficiency since
Oh, you want
area
where
q4early q1 area where
You were talking more
about some of the cost inefficiencies that have crept into the
this
system.
we were talking more about some of the cost inefficiencies that have crept into the system so
time.
So, I think
Overall,
good
trends
there. You know, I
i think overall good trends there i think
A dual part of
reconditioning. There's
cost
and
then
there's
is production
a dual part of reconditioning there's cost and then there's production capacity
capacity.
Himself
Where we did.
and so q3 was a quarter
in production capacity.
Uh we set
a
record
where we did make gains in production capacity we set a record for
It's
produced, and
of
a
quarter. It was our first quarter
of producing
more than
two or
units produced in the quarter it was our first quarter producing more than two hundred thousand
houses
units of
I
milestone are here for your
units in a single quarter that's a nice milestone our year over year growth
in for
also
accelerated
slightly
relative to
you,
in production also accelerated
which I think
is a little
the
is the
direction
that
slightly relative to q2 which i think is
we
want
to
it
have.
and we slately
Actually, we tell your
the
the direction that we want to head and we slightly outgrew retail units sold
soul from up.
result.
something
slightly out
from a slightly out produced retail
very
also.
definitely a
direction that
we want to
sold in q3 which is also definitely a direction that we want to head
head. So I think we made some nice gains of production. Having said
that,
there's
there
still, you know, more
i think we made some nice gains in production having said that there's still
work
to
do, and
continuing
to
it's going to
more work to do and continuing to increase production capacity is going to be
gonna
a
a key area of focus
focus as we look
forward.
I was one of
example of
that, you
to
in
as we look forward as one example of that
the
growth in the number of cars that are on the website immediately available
Number of cars that are on the website immediately available to
to customers is still up year over year
Year of year at a rate that
is
much
below
what
sales
group is
year over
here
at a rate that is much below what our sales growth is year over year
of times
and so that's something we want to change and we're going to continue to invest
in getting the right people process and systems in place in the
reconditioning centers to efficiently scale production
that's great thanks so much mark
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great thanks for taking the question
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mark first one for you where do you think the
Biggest are opportunity is as you natural
leverage.
Can you kind
biggest area of opportunity is in sg and a for leverage and can you kind of
of
talk
do
the
I say
higher as you
talk through the puts and takes ad spend is higher as you
mentioned on a per unit basis assuming that remains similar into the fourth quarter and twenty seven
And how should we think of
about other line
and fuel costs remain elevated how should we think about other line items leveraging
thank you
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sure yes so i mean i think if we
you know take a step back and you know think about the
Perfect.
opportunities through the entire sg and a stack
i think there's opportunities in every area so
let me start with overhead we do have a high fixed cost business where
we make significant technology investments we have large investment in infrastructure
that we think levers well over time and so see
Alright, I don't
significant opportunities to further lever overhead expenses
over time i think that's an area where we have shown really significant leverage over the
several years as well but do believe that's an area that affords
significant further leverage as we look out over time on a per retail unit sold basis
next i'll talk about advertising expense we've made
Residential.
the point before that advertising expense is a place where
Helen
not necessarily in the near term but certainly in
the longer term see opportunities for meaningful advertising leverage
Help the
as we continue to raise awareness understanding and trust
build out our selection improve speeds etcetera enhancing the customer offering
Light
of the things that I've got to do is that I'm going to be able to do it.
a good data point on that is just the fact that our most mature markets that have
the most nearby inventory at the fastest delivery times have historically had
London
Lee hindsight as totally half.
the city.
is the
much lower advertising expense per unit than
the company as a whole and so advertising
not necessarily in the near term but certainly in the long term is a significant sg and a leverage
opportunity last i'll talk about operations expenses so
It
So it's you know, did
operations expenses did tick up
in q3 i think
fuel and logistics cost was definitely a component of that
and certainly the largest component of that and
and so that buck is sort of a longer term secular trend
And
I think it
we look
you
operations expense per unit declining
i think if we look in the longer term there's significant
opportunities there driven by ai and by
Cloud
scale and logistics network density that can cause operations expense
Are they
per unit to come down on a per retail unit sold basis in the fullness of time as well
so that's a lot of different components
but really as we do look across those major sg and a categories
we see opportunity for leverage as we look out
into the future
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great thanks second one is for you ernie
Hmm
Office
you mentioned in opening remarks opportunities in agentik ai
and the
for
Carl are
they're
they heard?
with the
thing
that head
the
business to
kind
what's opportunity for carvana there how are you positioning
up
on
that
shape and pick him
the business to capitalize on that shift in consumer behavior
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sure well first
i would say that we're excited by the fact that we think that we've been positioning the business
The business for that kind of a thing.
for that kind of a shift for fourteen years i think what
the light of the light of the
agenic ai is basically
just putting general ai capabilities that can also
take actions into the pockets of consumers and
The golden newers, and we know a lot of things that are
Where
we think it does a lot of things that are very good for us we think just through habit formation
What
general it pushes people more in the direction of digital transactions
and then we think that it also as a general matter has kind of the capacity to
Lori,
Little
effectively reduce digital friction to zero while
while leaving physical friction largely unchanged
Physical fiction, why do I think that
what i mean by that is if a customer
is.
The
Little
Hi.
comes to carvana through their agent and we're able to
Lyle
her
verify that the agent has a customer behind it and that agent has
to everything that's necessary for that customer to get a trade in value and
knows which cars to shop for and is able to apply for credit
and has access to their documents to provide
The
information we need for verifications the customer's experience there is going to basically be
we found the car here's the picture here's the trade in value here's how
He is the train now. You have not compared the dance mark.
We applied for
anything here's
is your
you're
damn
compares to benchmarks we applied
we
for financing here's your down payment and your monthly payment
with the trade in applied
if you'd like this one it can be here today if you want this one it can be here tomorrow if you
want one of these two it can be here in two days
Louli,
and it's kind of say yes or no it's kind of like the logical extreme of where that can go
i think when you compare that to what we compete with which is what's
She what we can see
what's important what
with what's important.
Whatever this hemisphere
whatever the technological change what matters is what we can do but also what the
The
The
Is what we knew, but I don't know what an artillery knew.
we
that I was going
to
competition can do the experience the customer is going get
is likely to be very different first of all the odds that the agent can even find
a car that is similar in the entirety of the city is not
Is not
it in any lord
certain i think in many large metropolitan areas today with the inventory that we have
we already have more cars than the sum of dealers in many many areas and that's
strength that continues to get stronger so there's they will
Someone
figure out what's the best match that it's got
Was that
Wow
then it will probably say here's the process to get a trade in value if you go in
this dealer has this dock fee associated with it and
They may have
a different
either.
they may have additional add ons that are either part of the car that you'll run
You go to that far, you make sure you keep me in your farm.
long
into as you go through that process make sure you keep me in your pocket so i can
keep you informed along the way we can't get
see what your interest rate is going to be but given
benchmarks and tools that we can find online here's roughly what we think the range is likely to be
Make a way like a while
along the way.
yeah, yeah,
if you'd like to apply for a loan before you go here's a series of steps that you can go through
little.
bit of a penny.
And you have
you
not
and so you can kind of see where not only is it
only is it
would do
reducing the digital friction
He waiting, kiddie, he's a
it is also fully revealing and articulating
friction.
So we
think
that the
human beings are a human
name is huge
hand
the physical friction and so we think that's a huge advantage for
made this
walk uh
other
a very like
to you
building
us we think like we said in the prepared remarks if we were building from scratch today
we would build carvana and so we think it's a huge opportunity for us we're excited by it i
think it's very early days i think it's one of many tools that will be in the pockets of consumers over time
and we think that some of those tools is just going to put pressure on businesses to build
fundamentally better solutions and we're fourteen years into building a completely different supply
chain and completely different approach to this business that is more efficient and more vertically integrated and benefits
from all these changes so we're extremely excited by it
awesome thank you ernie
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just
Hallelujah.
two on the other gpu i guess anything about gain on sale levels going
forward and kind of across your
Myself
three major selling channels there just
what should we expect in terms of these levels going forward
kind of in the seven percent range and then how will each of those
channels kind of perform within that and then second
you upsized the abs deal i think you did during the quarter for the first time and
question is like should we expect future deals to look like that and if so kind of
Oh, yeah,
what would you recommend in that
after a
being you.
what would you recommend investors read into a deal that gets upsized versus one
that does not
thanks
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sure so let me start with
you framed the question in kind of
premium space instead of dollar space and i think that
it's useful to look at it both ways i think over the last
year or so as we've given rate back to customers and that rate has been
Has been shall be in the
we are the
a very good
disproportionately in the primary we've seen
hospitals, we
we've seen
more
expensive
all the
more prime customers and we've seen more
transactions all at wisconsin that has also kind of served our inventory goals
Over the
over that period so it is natural that we move in that direction oftentimes
He is naturally.
it be that light against
premiums go down but they're applied against a bigger balance
and so if you look at it in dollar space
It'll you.
be
bit of a little bit of a little bit of
all out
like
that line item is a line item that i think it's
an exercise that i would suggest to everyone is
go look at the last twelve quarters graph that out over time and
just look at the stability in the absolute dollars
it bounces around inside of a very very tight range
and i think if you look at it over a longer period than
as a general matter it's been upward sloping as we've continued to find fundamental gains
and get more efficient as a business and add various loan buyer partners that lower our
Me
I think
cost of funds so i think we will continue to utilize these different
channels that we've got we'll continue to seek out fundamental gains in every part of the finance flows
Red
but i think something that we're very excited by is
this line item that obviously gets a lot of attention and there's a lot of numbers that bounce around
Uh
The
People can watch new enough?
this
quarter to quarter that people can watch and kind of push through the math
to
My
despite all of that we think the most important thing is we found a lot of stability there
and it's because the platform that we built generates a lot of real fundamental value
and then we're able to capture that value while also passing value back to our customers
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hey thanks i just wanted to follow-up on the agentic
question and understanding the advantage you guys have but
Yeah, but well I mean it's
where are you with that now is there anything that you need to
invest in to take advantage of that because if you just sort of
i know it's very early in this whole process but but if i just did a random sample
Way and champion going out to somebody's bottom and say, You know, funny you
he's
you
guys come
got
of going out to some of these bots and say find me a used car
you guys come up sometimes but your competitors still come up quite a bit as well so
wondering what you need to do to invest to take advantage of your benefits
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sure well think
Her
there's a series of things that probably sit underneath that question
i think the one that you specified there was the search question
we think we've got to make our cars readily available we've got to make sure
What I did all the way to
the different
pushing out data and all the ways that these different bots can see it
We
However
we've got to make sure that we continue to scale and get our information out there and i think there's lots of
that go into that but i think the great news is that the bigger we get
the more often we're going to show up in all those different places
and then i think in terms of changes to the underlying business there's really not
a lot of fundamental things that we need to change a lot of these tools are tools
we use ourselves a lot of these tools are tools that are now in the hands of consumers
but because our entire consumer facing system
How do you
If he can give them a
and and you know we can
present
all
the
information
is deterministic and we can present all of the
information for every part of the transaction through an api to you know
any part of our website any ux that we create on our website or any
You activate
I think that's a good
ux that is available to consumers through whatever bots they have
It's very beautiful.
it's very straightforward
And then because we
it's a very good
of
and then because the underlying processes for even how we do a lot of the operational things that
the operational things that
touch customers are all
also
that touch customers are also pushed through a wire
there's customer care work verifications work have registration work
that is done in a way where we have
Do you have any
all we
have me feel
a
Douglas
here, we
articulated all the rules we have made clear exactly what documentation we need we have
have your business
rules
and
woe.
business rules flows where data is pulled off of
where it is, pull off of our people and push those
woes
words
to get
us to
paper and pushed those flows to get us to answers
that also means that we're very well positioned to utilize these tools
in our business itself because the underlying
And
systems are already there and the underlying rules are already are
articulated inside of a system that's able to execute against them so
Oh wait, wait, oh,
we think in customer facing ways and in our own
Minister.
we have to.
managing of the business we just think there's opportunities to get better everywhere and i think
And I think, you know, everything else working on the business, it's just a matter of
the day that
like everything else we're working on in the business it's just a matter of prioritization and how well we execute but
the opportunity is all over the place
The
Nature, the
parents?
Is
the colour of the
thank you
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thanks for taking the question and congrats on the progress
mother's a little bit of a magic.
ernie i wanted to ask your thoughts on the fcc dynamics in the quarter
Slide
would love to get your thoughts on
how you see the industry kind of evolving from here
do you think the industry is kind of caught up now in terms of practice
do you feel like your position is
What
World
strengthened by this and do you view this as a benefit more to units
or maybe even your ability to push asp and
maybe gpu higher would love to get your thoughts on that topic thank you
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sure so i think
Marie
yeah as a general matter we think this makes it
clearer for consumers to compare offers
Belief
Different
so.
more easily for different cars that they can purchase
and we think that directionally that benefits us whether it's
Next.
Natural
the kind of dock fee direction or if it's
India
direction that has also been issued by the ftc around
Mm-hmm.
My name is
disclosing any
additional products that are required to be purchased with the car in the price of the car so
if a car for example has like tents preinstalled or has fabric
Old
protection preinstalled or vin etching or whatever it is preinstalled
One
that also is supposed to be disclosed as part of the price
So we think that it is a very important
has
so we think that that's helpful because it kind of
you know
it
brings
all
the
information
forward
in a way
where there
the
it
ears of
the
person
it brings all the information forward in a way that is easier for the customer to see
customer's date.
in any way
Is that
that's not
materially
different
than a
it comes from that has Chat GP or
in many ways that's not materially different than a customer that has chatgpt in their pocket
or is using an agent
You can pay me
forests, they also kind
is using an agent to complete these purchases because
of bring
in for
forward in
the
similar
laws,
we
they also will kind of bring information forward in similar ways
meaning for
us in
to get
that that's
great
because
we
it
makes
we think for us that's great because think it makes it
it
some
it
up
front, and
easy,
for
customers
to
see
with
what they
simpler it's upfront and easy for customers to see what they're
their
uh with
they're
getting into
it,
and to understand
what
but that
I don't
would you know?
all
what they're getting into and to understand what the steps are likely to be down the path
about,
and
the only
we
think
that
that's
a
benefit to
was
us
a
brotherly, I
think, you
know,
and so we think that that's a benefit to us broadly i think
I'm not
in, in
unit
or
whether it shows up in units or margin i think
Lodge, I think Lauder, I
the
extent
is largely a choice i think to the extent that we
In
the value
of You
Name.
the value that we offer is easier to discover for consumers
or Consumer? Now we'll generate
day. How you
in
you
know,
We generate
where we
you
are
how clearly we
that will generate value and we given where we
paths,
a third
and
an
half or
percent,
are
I
think
you're going
we
will
would have
or
reverse,
all of
whether they are
and given how clear the path is the thirteen point five percent i think that we would prefer
who
all up in
Unigrol, I
but
that
requires that we
him new hill, a little
that value to show up in unit growth but that requires that we continue to scale the
required
of
visit.
supply chain as quickly as possible to the extent that we're
unable to scale the supply chain as quickly as we'd like which we would like to be scaling it even faster
then it's likely to show up in margins or somewhere else
It's good
but we think as a general matter it's good for us
what i would also say is we feel like the way those economics flow through
We dealt the way of the nose. If you were to look at the
have
25
or
30 years of
more
automotive
retail,
if you were to look at the last twenty five or thirty years of automotive retail
in
generally be
beginning where
they have
been a very good
easily.
know, Ibrahim
in the
generally speaking what has happened is ebitda margins or net income margins
mortgages have
been
had
And be able to.
have been relatively flat over a very long period of time
of
old
drawback, be created
the fright
I
and basically vehicle profits have decreased and f and i
drops of
increased
AND the
in
underlying
host
for
redealers have
profits have increased and the underlying cost
band.
baby,
in the user.
so
older.
structure of dealerships have been in a similar spot
to emow you because it has been
said,
shit.
relative to the value of the car that's being purchased and so
Have
Oh,
i think that the simplification of that story is just that dealers have
pretty.
my love
like
you
pretty clear cost structures this is a
longstanding extremely mature industry that has
I
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profits that are associated with it that are profit
You'll probably get her pretty well with that
are a very important thing.
levels that are pretty well established and the particular place where that shows up
soul.
Mouse
just doesn't matter all that much to the bottom line
Adder, and much to the bottom.
so we think to the extent there's more clarity and these other line items are
His
simplified what that will likely lead to is just increases in the
The
frightened new word,
what therefore,
fortune.
that other dealers list their cars for and
it probably won't change the underlying economics very much
so it just it aids in price discovery and value understanding for our
I think we understanding for our customers, and we think
customers and we think that's great
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super helpful and i'll take a swing at
of quarters again, children.
I have a
question,
but
one
couple of quarters ago you told me to have a different question but
that what the franchise feel are
or model
a little
bit,
Clearly, a lot
wanted to ask about the franchise dealer model a little bit clearly
of things have been written about the success you're having in that vertical
Really, there
is that opening doors for other manufacturers and
the way
more movement there would love to get your thoughts about
Morning out there, we'd love to get your thoughts about that
expansion
in the
that expansion opportunity ahead for the company thank you
yeah sure thank you well think you know apologize to be so cutesy on this but
but unfortunately don't have a ton more detail to add would say we spoke a bit in
our opening remarks about
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Or Davis Diego,
our work there with stellantis dealerships as
and early
indication of
your
know, the
platform
value,
that
the
or
as kind of being an early indication of the
Dolan Weekly
either, we have build a plot, or
to
have
we
real value
to
platform value that we're building we think that we have built a platform that has
You want to ride on the
real value to it we
in
Earryqueer and
dirty
requir
the customer offering that we provide to customers is very clear and it's very high quality and it's very clear to
customers like
it,
yet
agony
war
work,
failured a lot of
good
things
there,
but
it
all
it's
hovering
in
customers like it the economics work so i think there's a
the
game, and
we see
saw that all that to
lot of good things there but it's also very early in the game and we still got a lot to learn
you.
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new.
was.
single
thank you
comes from shear and
back
Backfair
with
William
Blur, please
go
the next question comes from sharon zackfia with william blair please go ahead
and
hi thanks for taking the question
Washing, um
Yeah,
you have a work
upon
as you kind of embark upon the full adesa
conversions or build outs
Slight
Any fish
are there any inefficiencies that we should expect to
kind of see hit the p and l
And in a minute,
and are there any learnings from the kind of mini conversions that you did that will
inform
Informed
kind of how
have these
Portugal
kind of how these larger conversions come up to speed
of
come up just
Spain.
with
in
this
tree.
sure i can hit that
Lisa
had to be
You know, the
When
so i do think when we are launching a new facility
i do think that those facilities tend to have higher costs
other things being equal than facilities that are
Records of the rest of the rest of the
at a greater level of maturity and scale
In a way, space with my
some of that is just basically levering as production
facilities are ramping up levering some of the more fixed components of the cost structure
parts of it can also be related to just getting all the systems and
Lord,
processes up to be operating at the highest level of efficiency so
i do think there can be some effects there now
i would note that we've been we have been integrating facilities
In my
you know, when I'm
and now we'll start integrating
to leave over the time.
and so I think
we
use
time.
fully constructed facilities here over time and so i think we
that's been part of our business for a long time we did
The theater is a very good reason.
talk a little bit in late twenty twenty five about how hey actually adding facilities did have some
outsized impacts on costs that led to a lot of
focus over the course of this year on making sure that we have the right
The chest.
Skills,
Yes,
management infrastructure and leadership development infrastructure making sure we
the right systems making sure that we have the right day to day
operational focus on managing costs as the network gets bigger and bigger
there's always more to do there but i think we've made gains that leave us feeling good about
our ability to bring on new sites at a
reasonable level of efficiency
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because that seems like it
and mark guess i was thinking more about the people side because that seems like it's
it's a
tougher
purchase
here,
also
to the
of
increase the
number
of
variables
and
tougher part to scale so if you kind of increase the number of managers in training
training
or you
know,
mechanics and
training,
or
so
on, as we
think
about
or you know mechanics in training or or so on as we think about this
acceleration in twenty seven
this
our acceleration and 27.
yes sure yes so on the people side i think there's
a couple of different components so why is
it
a couple of different components so one is
we've talked about the idea of just making the job of managing an
From the drive of management,
please.
support.
damn
I can above things
inspection and reconditioning center simpler so that can involve things like
better manager reporting that provides
Later.
Mills, all the
more real time data
faster and deeper into the
Farmer
We've been using AI.
operations of the inspection and reconditioning center that's something that we've been using ai over
with
was
court.
Present
course of this year to rapidly scale systems that give managers better
real time day to day operating visibility
On innovation, I need things on the
in addition i do think part of it is
from the
of the
making sure that we are bringing on the right number of
leaders in the inspection and reconditioning centers giving them grounds
Grounds, 49 and getting up to speed.
removing onto the
for training and getting up to speed before moving on to new facilities
and so that's a place where we have ongoing
development and further opportunity so i think
True,
but it's not a good
through systems and through making sure we have the right people in place
i think those are some of the key things that will allow us to
Communication
scale into more facilities at
level of efficiency that we hope to do so
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great thanks for taking the questions i wanted to ask about just
Maybe
ebit margin expansion or just ebit per unit
Why?
What?
Why do you like
going forward i mean last few quarters
is one?
you know?
yeah,
you
targets, you
know,
there have been a lot of different type of margin headwinds fuel costs
benchmark
or ape.
you know benchmark rates
you
know,
oh, I
yet
can
in your
issues.
you
you think
you
know
storing
for
thought,
reconditioning issues do you think starting fourth quarter
Out of the
the
Out.
more than if angels
or
you should be back to margin
you and
true, you
expansion or ebit per unit expansion for the company
assuming all else equal just curious to get your thoughts there
maybe the last time you're gonna guide guide so might as well ask and i have a quick follow-up
thanks
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sure well i would say earlier in the call mark
See you.
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gave examples of areas where we think that there's additional opportunities for leverage
Additional.
opportunities for the
that
in
front of the
i would put that question back in kind of the context of our
our goal of thirteen point five percent
There is an
ebitda margin leverage kind of maps to twelve point
five percent operating income margins
Margins, and I think that those different line items that
heap
he
line
and i think that those different line items that he provided are enough
are enough to twelve and a
half
to get us to twelve point five percent operating income margins
Operation Commorten
and
that
leaves, you
all
the
rubbery
on
out
items where
away
hit up and
into
in the best
with one
fundamental
to
and that leaves all the revenue line items where we still think that there's
be
had
in all
the
very
cast
are all we think of
fundamental gains to be had and all the variable cost line items where we think that there's
those.
of
warning, wine,
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significant fundamental gains to be had many of which will be
aided and hopefully accelerated
by the various ai tools that we've been discussing on the call
Supplement
She
so we think the path there is extremely clear and then
of course there's always to be little things that we face this quarter
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it was pretty significant moves in gas price
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and in interest rates which impact us to the tune of about two hundred dollars per unit
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the
gray.
came
may be both thing
pendant, and be
but in the grand scheme of things those things tend to zero out and we're just kind of
Morning.
Reading the past by the
steadily on this march so we think the path is very clear
the away, very
we're going to continue to move forward we can see our way very clearly to thirteen point five percent
and we plan to get there slowly but surely continually over time
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and then just on third quarter advertising pretty sharp sequential pickup
quite.
and you're
given
this
fake some
and
i know you've given us like some color on like leverage going forward but
are you able to unpack
Religor
couple areas where
Can the investigation war is
know you invested more this quarter within advertising you know any examples that you could highlight
that would be helpful thanks
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sure i think
we continue to test things all over or through many different advertising
i don't think there's anything too notable to call out there as we discussed
last quarter inventory was growing a little slower than we kind of ideally
would have liked we are putting a little bit more into advertising to keep pressure up on the rest of the business
i think we're still at two percent market shareholder so
it remains very early in the game and there are
Operation
areas of opportunity all over the place in marketing both for more dollars to be
however, replaced in marketing, but for more dollars to be spent, and
in the house of
Save significantly
spent and then also for us to save significantly in dollars per unit
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so i think we'll continue to manage that equation over time
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you can kind of see what we've done over the last several quarters
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is a very good place
good evening thanks for taking my question congrats on an awesome quarter
Second
either mark or ernie your units were up
Percent accelerated.
thirty nine point four percent which is actually an acceleration whether it's a one percent two
three year basis
whether it's a one.
you know and that's in an environment where you know whether it's nada or cox
the used car business was actually down and sar was down in
Use Carbus.
Seldo,
in the quarter as well i was wondering if you can maybe just force rank
the factors as to why you think the acceleration
Maybe happening on the power.
year, we talk about your production in the trip.
might have happened in the past we've talked about better production in
available.
and maybe after
Any extra.
moral
you
inventory availability maybe the ftc has helped financing rate elasticity and then
six signed signal signed
you also mentioned before about broadening the mix and the price bandwidth selling more expensive cars
With fellow more expensive cars. I'm just curious if you could
can do four shrink, why you
i'm just curious if you can maybe force rank why you think
In
your business accelerated in an environment where that market decelerated
Huge
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no.
I
think there
an
are
in a
sure i mean i think that there's
many
in the
factors you
a little
probably
point
to
but
you
know,
all
many micro factors that we could probably point to but
our
general
primitive
in
and
how to
a ball,
believe
over
a
all
our general premise and kind of belief over
multi-year
or anything!
that you already have grown to
is
constrained
by
our
are a
a multiyear period is that our rate of growth is constrained by
you in
the
scale this
a
supply
chain
and
so
we
dig
that
is
by
ability to scale the supply chain and so we think that is by far and away the biggest driver of
mark talked about us
increasing our production growth
sequentially quarter over quarter pretty significantly but also even our year over year
growth increased a little bit sequentially from q2 to q3
From the
so we think that that's probably the most important thing we think that there's
The
clearly additional demand available to us
if we can produce the cars in many many different areas many different
Maybe segment income segments, credit
segments,
of
all of
the
car segments customer segments income segments credit segments
board, and that's why we
did
needed, and when we both did on
our
a particular type
all over the board and that's why we think that when we focus in on
of
but hard on our
we handed at
the
authorized
grow
particular type of car we tend to see outsized growth in that particular area the most notable area where
Member
Symbolic.
the
occurring right now is in prime where we've seen our prime mix really shift up
Pretty
as we've focused on producing
this.
more expensive later model cars as we try to catch up
i think the team is doing a great job and we're making a lot of progress
And we'll be going to porgraph in
in recon but you heard in the detail of mark's answer
this is definitely an area that we are going to continue to put a lot of effort
Future for very
See
for the foreseeable future for a very long time
operations and complicated physical operations are never easy
Jesus,
And
and scaling them at the speed that we're growing is very very difficult
And you were
and so it requires a ton of focus and attention and we're
Once
We're continually working and hires yourself with new ways to get
we're continually working hard to come up with new ways to get more efficient there so we can keep growing
that supply chain mark's putting a ton of effort in right now personally he's spending a ton of time there
so i think that will continue to be an area of focus but we think that is the biggest driver
Big
Morrow
A single
of our growth and so we just got to stay dialed in there and keep turning the wheel
Quick follow-up
from the samples.
with
just a quick follow-up you mentioned
of Rajasthan's
question
avertizing
more
on the
to rajat's question advertising more to put pressure on the business
and you guys have mentioned the notion of actually trying to
Guys, have mentioned the notion of actually trying to get
better
generate better production by actually putting pressure on the business
Sir,
If hungry and
a no
just curious how do you know when
It's too much, and I think how do you make her like how much more you
can
it's too much and how do you measure like how much more you can go by
trying that tactic
go by that tactic.
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i think that's
rape with a
obviously a feel and that's hard to
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No, I was.
precisely know and i think you're probably never exactly right but
as a general matter think we've got a lot of people at carvana that are competitive and
and want to win and want to find ways to make a difference
Before you carefully broke
and they want that pressure on themselves and we think that that's the best way for us to grow is
I could
quickly and effectively as we can and keep making the machine better so
Making machine better, so
Generally try to make our
on
i think yes we generally try to make decisions that
the
business
the
keep pressure on the business because a lot of times the
Obliging the areas where you need to focus
your
the areas where you need to focus your attention are revealed by
S
pressure because they're the areas that struggle first
if you aren't applying that pressure you don't find those areas that you need to improve to get better
and then once you improve those areas you move on to the next area that you need to improve
Move on to the next
and as you continually do that you just get a more and more efficient machine so
Machine
we do try to make sure that we are keeping pressure up we would like to think we do a pretty good job of it
i think that's definitely an art not a science
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question.
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on
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on agenteq risk
risk,
on
the
financing
side of the
business
could
agents have a
hypothetically
drive
on the financing side of the business could agents hypothetically drive
higher
you're
competition
proactively
searching
for
a
lower
rates.
higher competition proactively searching for lower rates
either at competitors or third party financing options
and how much does your moat in financing help with that risk going forward
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think,
try to swing at that maybe a couple different ways i think
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the renewal high as capable of humanity, new information therefore,
of your
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building
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take
out
action in their
profit
more information in their pocket and the ability to take action in their pocket
in?
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it
make everything
kind of easier in
it makes everything kind of easier and therefore price discovery is easier
along the lines of all the things that we discussed before
and so i think in kind of like a comparative static what
changes given the introduction of this technology it's reasonable to assume there will be things
Technology. Reasonable two things like higher
higher prepayments and then what exactly does that mean so i think that that is
But now you will use
that's not a crazy you know thought direction
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approaching the problem from a different side
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financing and this is kind of bigger than
carvana we'll talk about like financing in general and then we can zoom into carvana what that means
And my
Penny in your old.
financing in general is very clearly a value added
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back, oh no, nigga,
look
in the economy it's something that is important and necessary
have
Hopefully with
necessary and i think if you look at finance companies that provide consumer
the right.
you were free and to consume.
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go.
to consumers maybe banks is a good example and there are others as well
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these aren't companies that are earning excessively high profit
they're generally companies that are earning kind of
pretty reasonable profits relative to the work that they do
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and the reason i say that is because i think that
when some of these things are taken to their extreme like if you think of
financing as like an insurance business where you originate a pool of customers and some get better
JENTENTHENTY
and some get worse if all the customers that get better instantly refinance
and you're left only with the customers that got worse that basically have like a premium that was the
average of the expectation the finance business basically just doesn't work
it just kind of like wouldn't function so there will be market evolutions to resolve
Look at the
those sorts of things in other markets those have taken the form of upfront fees or prepayment
Listen to me.
fees or whatever it could be
With
It was hard in the
so what i would say is i think if you look at what
about, I came
happens in a vacuum i think you can arrive at one conclusion if you take into account the fact
I cannot
that these things exist in a system and they exist in a market and there's value being
The
provided i think that it is unclear what the sum of all of the market evolutions will be
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but it is unlikely to be as dramatic as the comparative static
kind of approach might cause you to think and then as we zoom into carvana in
My
High and
particular i think carvana has a number of advantages
free to go to the house and stick to the
free see how figure out how
versus two horizontally stacked businesses
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they
allow us
was the
to
that make our system more efficient they allow us to build
you better marvel and brave more
factor in
into a
better models and to price more effectively and to avoid certain types of risk
that emerge through
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all
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that to remain the
in same so
I
think we'll
two stacked horizontal businesses and we would expect that to remain the same so
see
how
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this is
all
over
time.
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be
harmful
i think we'll see how all this evolves over time that will be complicated it's obviously a thing that's going to get a ton of attention
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over you take
it
it's for you
to a
if I see
but i do think it's useful to take a step back
sense of seen this in Market to
sometimes and remember that these things exist in markets and there are generally many moves that occur
got it that's super helpful and then
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maybe just one more quick one for mark i was curious the note on twenty
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to you kind
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the right
time for
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is the right time for that change just focusing more on gaap earnings than non
maybe
is
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tap,
and
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gaap earnings maybe focusing more on gaap operating income than ebitda for example
example
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all this.
of you,
esteem, sir,
your
so
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sure yes
you know, I think the natural step
and all you
so i think it's a natural step in our evolution as a
mean,
I think, you know,
just
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been
to
an
important
whole matter of
company i think adjusted ebitda has been an important metric
for the tracking
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you know, many years, I
for tracking our progress over the past many years i think
as we become more profitable on a gaap basis
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i think the value of adjusted ebitda goes down and that's why i think when we looked
Down, and that was why we worked, out of the word, you know,
someone the
biggest and
most
successful
old
out at the world some of the biggest and most successful technology companies out there
they're not reporting adjusted ebitda they're focused on operating income they're focused on net income
and we think that's just a natural
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are we
you
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evolution for us as we seek to
us
to a
very
low
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really grow this business into a very large and very profitable one
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and you've been performing remarkably well but you do have a
what i view as a significant or larger competitor out there now that's
starting to show much better growth still nowhere near where carvana's
The first one has
putting up the question i want to ask is as you're seeing
is near as your sheet. This dynamic
change are you is is there
this dynamic change is there more
more
seen
Seeing
in
Your
business
that
Did you have
a
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be a
anything in your business that you have a stronger competitor now reemerging
don't let me
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we're approximately a two percent market shareholder
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i think for a long time we've been the second largest
seller of used cars in the country i think we're knocking on the door of becoming the largest and so i think when we
Let us look for
evaluate others in the market they are going to be
similar in size to us or smaller and what we've historically seen is
We distinctly distinguish the teeth out
I'll be in
of
it's very hard for us to tease out the impacts of any of those individual players
in our results so we are focused on
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the
it's a little bit of a
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you
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everything in the business just function better and we think that that's
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us generally technology rewards scale and there's been a lot of
technological evolution recently
we're excited by that and we think it in many ways provides a tailwind for us over time so
i think we have not seen anything in particular from any given competitors
that we believe has had any notable impact on our results
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question i think someone else asked about the changes the ftc
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Actually, the changes that you see, the baby is coming for
made in these companies level the playing field changes
the first one wanna ask is you know look carvana has been on the right side of this for a while
Mm,
with the the with these fees
do you believe though now with these ftc changes that is an that has been an incremental
driver of your business
and if so how how should we think about the duration of that
Horse
is it a one year type phenomenon or is this something that goes on for a while
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think it's very hard to massage out in the results we clearly think it's directionally better for us
we'll see what the overall impacts are over time
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mean, I
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but i would take that opportunity to make a slightly bigger point i think
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top of the
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but what i would say is i think dock fees are a great example
of
innovation or
in
markets that is
not
fundamental. It's
not
a
of the type of innovation that can occur in markets that is not
make
the
of
pie
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a
fundamental it's not a make the pie bigger innovation it's a
presentation,
it's
sense.
and that
is
the type
a very important
of
presentation innovation and
innovation
of
that we think
of a
one the things that we can
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who beat the
that is the type of innovation that we think is less likely to be
successful in
a
world where
people
have
a
lot
of intelligence in their by
successful in a world where people have a lot of intelligence in their pockets
it.
something
that I have like
forget
enjoyed is going through
you
want to
and so something that i had my personal agent do is go through
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conference calls and all the q and a where mark talks too fast
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we have fought
Mel
and look and see how many times we said fundamental gains over the last several years
Bonnowing
and we've said fundamental gains three fifty times over the
several years in our various communications and to me what excites you about that is
And to me, we were like,
clear all that is.
that
very,
lowly
very clearly
shows
you
where
ahead of
head is, and the
That's why we
we've
make
made choices, why
that very very clearly shows you where our head is that's why we've made choices
way now you are
more
side of the
while the men are a very good
like not having dock fees and trying to make things as simple as we possibly can
know
because we put our effort into trying to build solutions that are fundamentally better
and that generate more pie they don't just kind of shift pie around on the plate
so we think this is an example where
Peppa, Space
where not all innovation in the market was pointed in that same direction
but we think that the tools that are emerging and in this case this ftc directive
Paul
In his chase, the chest is just
they all point in the direction of rewarding fundamental progress
and we're excited about that
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the next question comes from ron josey with citi
please go ahead
great thanks for taking the question ernie we'll see if you can use fundamental
again here i wanted to ask about inventory overall i think it was up around thirty percent in the quarter
last quarter we just talked about the importance to
I
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to drive and grow more inventory and what that can do to overall conversion rates so
I
think.
can I
about where I
are in the
inventory.
more
we a good MIT
control of the
talk to us more about where we are in inventory
what
you
are we at a good mix in terms of what you believe is needed to attract call it to high
And how
an hour.
That
earners or whatever it is and then how that's driving conversion rates
I wanted to make a lot of
question one on inventory
the
a mark
pointed
that thing
to the
avatar,
then mark i wanted to get back to the advertising comment
element
man
wake
with a
never
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wars
of
nine,
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How did that
with net promoter scores up nine points overall just
change Corvana's view
on
growth,
meaning does
that
mean
same
how does that change carvana's view on growth meaning
does that mean we move significantly forward on advertising spend to raise
See
awareness drive greater conversion rates etcetera thank you
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Huge
sure give
the
See
a little bit of a
a little bit of a
a little bit of a
i'll give a quick high level answer on inventory
Huge
i mean i think again reiterate we think the team has done a great job we've made progress
ready
are.
we made progress
building
more hours, we would certainly
in building more cars
to express.
and
what did you
do that if
we would certainly like to make faster progress
we could
press
a
button
and
a half
there are
many
and we're working hard to do that if we could press a button and have
thousands of
visual
many many thousands of additional cars on carvana we would instantaneously
Sylvia
His
Sister
very happily convert cash to more reconditioned cars
Sister Ses.
CARS. Uh, but you know, that
that's
but that's a process that requires a
it
It
Sisters,
ton of time and energy and so we're doing the work to try to as quickly as we can
Science
Sisters.
in the quarter we did out produce
sales by a little bit so that's definitely progress
excited about but there's a lot more wood to chop there
Sussex.
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great yes and then on the advertising question i actually think it's useful to just take
Selse.
step back and talk about our three part growth algorithm so
Representatively, I.
We've been talking about the
of
the battery.
you.
we've been talking about this i think over the past couple of years but
but I don't know
wrong way of
both
that
there's really three drivers of our long term growth one is
That just means making
that
for
were
continuously improving the customer offering that just means making simpler
facts
faster
The
your
and Lore.
more informative seamless experiences for our customers
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focused
on
and
plan
planicative
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focused on
some
always made
speaking
and that's something that we have focused on and plan to continue to focus on but just making
as
of the
ring better for
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big
part of
on
customer offering better is a big part of our long term growth story
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side of the
i think second is increasing awareness understanding and trust
that's really the pillar where advertising comes in we think we're relatively early still
in our long term journey of
telling our story to customers and
them really understand all the things that carvana brings to the table
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way to
got one
i think we think we've got a long growth way growth
way in front
five
in
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in
our
advertising
to
runway in front of us and so investing in advertising and telling our story is
a place we expect to continue to invest last
increasing selection and other benefits of scale that links back to your first question where
Sensi
certainly we want to continue to grow selection
Since
add more inventory pools drive faster delivery times and get those benefits
Sits
part of the long term growth algorithm so those are the three big areas
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two
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do
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to
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containment
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turn the conference back over to ernie garcia for any closing remarks
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out
ahead
in
bank thank
everyone for
joining in the
call
and
thanks
again
to
the
Corboronic
team,
thanks thanks everyone for joining the call and
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awesome
hour
quarter
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walk
around and
give
each
other
a
high
again to the carvana team another awesome quarter
fives. This
is
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great
one and then
let's
say,
go, come
back to
tomorrow
more
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and do it
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tomorrow and do it again thanks everyone
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